*Update 01-25-2007* This has become quite the monumental post. I love posts that incite some debate – and make no bones about revisions to correct content, or even change my opinion based on new information. This post is no exception – sorry about having to make it look like the 5th draft of a term paper – but it seems to be “evolving” a bit more every day. If you have something to add – just post or reply to a comment below!
*Update 01-24-2007*When I blogged about this earlier today I sent a message through Entrecard to all the top 5 “Make Money Online” blogs on Entrecard telling them I wrote about them, inviting them to comment, and also to “continue the meme” with a post on their site. I sent one to John Chow, because he was in the top 5, and he wrote about it – AND he dropped his card on me. That was nice of him. John – as I stated in message to you, a link back to my article would have been nice…=) I understand why you didn’t link back to me, because you probably get requests like that all the time, but it would have been nice nonetheless!
Entrecard is the new “it” widget for blogs. If you’re new – is it worth your time to get involved in the Entrecard community – or is your time wasted? What do you “really” have to do to benefit? Are the contests and credits worth it? Is Entrecard a black hole time sucker with a fake economy? This is my review of Entrecard and the experiences I’ve had with it on my blog the last few months. Hopefully I’ll not only give you some things to think about, but after reading this you’ll want to comment and post your experiences as well.
There are tons and tons and tons of posts on Entrecard all over the Web detailing good and bad experiences (*see the links at the end of this post). Entrecard is the new blog golden child, and it’s spread like wildfire from the “A-list bloggers” on down. I’ve been using Entrecard since I heard about it on Shoemoney.com. He saw it at a tradeshow and had good things to say about it. Shoe also saw MC Hammer promoting a dance site – so take that with a grain of salt. Shoemoney wasn’t the only one trying Entrecard, soon John Chow and Problogger were too – and all bets were off. Everyone started adding it (kind of like the Blogrush phenom).
What is Entrecard?
The concept of Entrecard is simple. You create a 125×125 “card” – like your ‘business card on the web’. Really, it’s just an ad. And the 125×125 ads have kind of become the default blogging ad. You place the “widget” on your site and other Entrecard members can do two things. First they can click “drop card” and second they can advertise on your site (on that widget). Everytime someone “drops a card” you get 1 credit. When you drop a card on someone else’s site (with the widget) you get 1 credit.
*update*
Here’s a graphic from the Entrecard site about credits:

Your “level of activity” in the Entrecard community determines the current “ad rate”.
*update*
How much does it cost to advertise on someone’s widget?
From the Help Guide on the Entrecard site
To advertise your card on someone else’s widget, it costs the number of credits equal to twice the number of cards dropped on that widget each day. So if a widget receives an average of 50 cards dropped into it each day, advertising on that widget will cost 100 credits per day. This helps insure that for every two credits you pay, a unique user will see your ad and be clicking in the general vicinity. It also ensures the economy balances, because every time you drop your card, it creates two credits. That surplus mus be balanced via advertising costs.
When you start Entrecard your ad rate is just a few measly credits. Then (since you are new and your ad cost is very low) you will get a slew of sites wanting to advertise on your widget before your cost goes up. *update* There is however a balance to this, since you are new you ad rate is low, and everyone will want to advert with you at the low rate, which will cause many to drop cards and ask for ads, not only generating credits for you but driving your ad price up (from all the dropped cards). This should get you off to a good start as long as you keep networking within the Entrecard community.
Basically, a new Entrecard signup is listed in the “Most Recent” listings tab in “Campaign” – so those of us that have been on Entrecard awhile know where to look for fresh meat. All activity makes your ad rate go up. *update* See the previous paragraph regarding what determines your ad rate. People dropping their card on you, you dropping your card, approving and rejecting adverts for your site, leaving people recommendations and messages, responding to messages – these are all things that make your ad rate go up. *update*> All the activities within Entrecard, like leaving recommendations, messaging, approving and rejecting adverts – will cause people to drop their card on you making your ad rate go up. In other words – you determine your own “popularity” through your participation in the EC network. When you do things you earn credits, and you can use them to buy ads on other sites. It may not have the greatest algorithm (yet), but Entrecard was smart to tie your ad rate to your involvement in the community. (see last sentence). It forces you to be somewhat involved. Who would want to be on the bottom of a category and have your ad rate be single digit numbers?
Inflated Entrecard Stats?
The flip side of this is that there are some people who have nothing but time on their hands – and they “click, click, click” all day long dropping their card on everyone in sight making their ad rate unbelievably high *update* you can’t “click” your ad rate higher. But the more you increase your visibility (by dropping your card) the more your ad rate will go up because more people will drop their card on you. Thanks to Colin King (see comments below) for pointing this out to me again. I guess the limit of sites you can drop your card at is 300 in a day, and I’ve read about several that have reached that limit. But why, can you imagine dropping a card 300 times? That’s finding 300 sites on Entrecard, visiting 300 profiles, then clicking to 300 homepages, and dropping your card 300 times. That just seems insane to me. *update*:Just because it seems insane to be, doesn’t mean that others don’t see the benefit (read comments below). This post says “worth it or worthless” in the title because you determine what you get out Entrecard and what it’s worth to you.
I want you to take a look at the top spots in the “Make Money Online” category today. For a long time John Chow was #1, and now he’s #5. And #3 is Problogger. But if you are new to Entrecard you might be asking yourself – who in the heck are numbers 1, 2 and 4?? This is both the neat thing “and the flaw” of Entrecard (right now). A virtually unknown blogger can “click his way to the top“, and that part of the algorithm should probably be changed. Maybe limit the amount of sites you can drop a card on per day to something reasonable – like 50. But you can also have a very high ad price if you have a high level of activity on your account – from lots of card drops (from other sites), to lots of messages and recommendations (and you responding to them as well). So, if you’re having a contest or send out lots of messages – you can significantly boost your ad price.
*update*I want to revise the previous paragraph because it (again) says you can click you way to a high ad rate position, which (in comments and previously in this post) I pointed out already you can’t. You can drop your card 300 times a day to “increase your popularity and visibility” – and that will get droves of people to drop their card on you. Your ad rate is the number of card drops times 2, so to get an ad price of say 360, you just need 180 card drops per day. Now that I realize this it’s more impressive what the “unknown” bloggers have done (and ‘up-and-coming’ is probably a better word than ‘unknown’). Think about this – John Chow and Problogger have massive traffic, so (ask Colin King again points out below in comments) they probably get an unusually high rate of card drops from people hoping to get their attention. Colin, Teri, and Kumo have all become visible enough (in Entrecard’s community) to rank as high as the heaviest hitting bloggers around – all from their own efforts (not guaranteed daily traffic)! My final statement from that paragraph still stands:
“In other words, you are rewarded for your “participation in the community” of Entrecard.” Because participation = visibility, and visibility = popularity, and popularity = EC credits and higher ad price. Hopefully this all translates to more rss subscribers, more comments on your posts, and more visitor’s and readers to your blog.
Is Entrecard Worth Your Time
Tossing aside the ability of “clicking your way to the top” for the moment, Let’s look at the benefits of that participation. Going back to the top 5 spots in the “Make Money Online” category on Entrecard let’s talk about the (outside of Entrecard) unknown ‘up-and-coming’ bloggers in positions #1, #2, and #4. *Update* – I just want to stipulate that I’m using these 3 sites as an example only – they are currently ranked in the top 5 ad price spots for “make money online” in Entrecard, against arguably the top 2 “A-list” bloggers in the world. Those spots seem to change weekly, sometimes daily depending on amounts of activity the amount of card drops.
These would be:
#1 spot – A Geek’s Journey by Colin King
#2 spot – Toast Egg & Me by Kumo
#4 spot – Internet Dreamer by Toni Turner
The reason that I call all three of these sites “unknown bloggers up-and coming bloggers” is because they aren’t even listed in the Top 100 Sites about Making Money Online. **Disclaimer – Colin King points out in comments below that you have to ask to be on that list or carry their “widget”, something I didn’t know. Actually, that list goes a bit beyond the top 100, it goes up to #281, and Internet Dreamer is listed as #170, but the other two aren’t listed at all. The top money making sites list is scored by a combination of google pagerank, technorati score, and alexa ranking. So it’s a combination of google trust, blogosphere reputation, and amount of traffic – a pretty good unbiased combination if you ask me. I’ve worked very hard on this site – and I don’t even rank in the top 281 yet!
So the point of contention here is the ad price or amount of EC’s (entrecard credits) you need to spend to place an ad with one of these 3 sites. Colin King at #1 has an ad price of 378 credits for one day. Toast, Egg & Me at #2 is 334, and Toni Turner is 301 credits per day. Can you really justify spending that many credits on one of those sites? *update*: Again – I’d like to point out that my point here is to get you to decide if your perceived value of Entrecard makes it worth it, or not? If you buy in to my previous comments about what you get out of your EC participation you will agree with ad pricing, and if you don’t agree you won’t. Leave your comment at the end of this post…
Let’s talk about #4 – Internet Dreamer a second. Toni Turner’s site has only been live for 2 months and 25 days (as of today). She only has 115 RSS subscribers, a google pagerank of 2, 1,838 pages that link to her, and 88,136 Alexa ranking (it terms the site as “low traffic”). The value of a single text link is $15. Total estimated site value $940.
Now #2 – Toast Egg & Me. Kumo has been online 3 months and 20 days. There is no google pagerank yet, with 1,055 links. Alexa ranking is 146,702 (they say ‘just getting started’), and a text link is worth $10. Total estimated site value is only $640.
Last #1 – which is Colin King. He’s #1 in Making Money Online today (on Entrecard), and has been online 9 months, 25 days correction: Colin’s site has been online 3 months and 3 days with a google PR of 0 no pagerank yet – and 10,789 links (according to dnScoop) (how do you have that many backlinks with a zero PR unless you have a penalty Colin states in comments below I made an assumption of his site being penalized by google. With that many links (dnScoop lists 10,789, google says 199) and no pagerank – and there was a very recent pagerank update, you can usually smell penalty. Sure enough, if you google site:www.ageeksjourney.com you get no results, and even googling the domain gets only 2 pages. That IMHO is a big-time google penalty. *update*: He has links for http://ageeksjourney, maybe that’s the issue??), an Alexa ranking of 100,784. A text link is valued at only $10 – but this does have a supposed value of $8,549.
*Update*
I don’t want anyone to get the impression that I think these 3 blogs are either worthless or that no one visits them. I’m merely painting a picture for you, and to illustrate that point I’m going to include the other two blogger like I should have the first time around. The entire point I’m making here is – Look at these 3 ‘up-and-coming’ bloggers – they are actually competing head to head (in Entrecard) with 2 of the most well known juggernauts of the blogosphere!
#3 – Problogger (Darren Rowse), has a pagerank of 6, 829,841 links, Alexa rating of 3,040, text link value of $491, and a total estimated site value of $8,753,920.
#5 – John Chow, has a pagerank of 4, 286,052 links, Alexa rating of 3,572, text link value of $491, and a total estimated site value of $343,140.
Looking at those stats alone I would immediantly say there’s no way I could justify spending that many credits for an ad on any one of these three blogs (if you were wondering where I got all these figures – I just did a quick lookup on dnScoop.com for some quick stats – and aguably take these with a grain of salt). But you have to also think about the Entrecard community and what it’s intrinsic value is to you. The exposure you get within the Entrecard community alone may be well worth that spending that many entrecard credits. Toni Turner drops 300 cards per day every day – for sure. I get one in my box almost every day. But because of her persistence in my Entrecard Inbox – I know her name now, her site’s name, and I’ll not soon forget it. She’s build her own little brand within the Entrecard community. And because of all the card drops, people drop cards on her. People pay the high EC rate to advertise on her site because they figure with all activity people are going to see their advert quite a bit. So maybe it is worth saving up some credits. What little ‘A large percentage of’ traffic some of these sites are getting (like mine) is coming from Entrecard itself. Is that a bad thing? I guess it depends on your niche. I certainly wouldn’t spend enough time to drop 300 card per day myself. *Update*: However, you can see from the comments below that those dropping 300 cards a day say it can take less than an hour per day – and it’s well worth it to them!.
I blog about making money, and learning from blogging mistakes, and most of my posts are about blog tips, blog help, earning more money online, or WordPress hacks and what-not. If I get 30-40 visits a day from Entrecard card droppers I consider that valuable, and quite a few of those visitors have signed up for my RSS feed and commented on my posts. I have found at least a dozen new blogs through Entrecard, and even formed a new blogging network “Content Exchange” through my Entrecard contacts. I have greatly benefited from my Entrecard network of new-found blogging friends. Would a blog about “dog training” be able to the same? Why not – there are currently 23 other blogs in the “Pets” category on Entrecard they could network with.
The Bottom Line of Entrecard
I say that if you’re going to bother to sign up with Entrecard, you should at least become involved in the community enough to benefit. With just minimal effort (like 10-15 minutes or less per day) you can have an ad price of 20-40 entrecard credits. *update*: (you’ll have that ad price because when you raise your visibility from participation more people will drop their card on you, hence raise your ad price 2 credits for every card drop you receive). Why? Why not – you are also going to be “building a brand” by dropping your card on a half-dozen new sites per day. Place ads on other sites, and accepts ads on yours. You will not only raise your ad price – but also find great articles on others sites to help you make more money on your blog. After a few weeks, drop messages to the sites you like best – do a few “recommendations”. Participate in a few contests, maybe put on a contest of your own. You aren’t just becoming part of the Entrecard community – you are starting to build up your own little community around your blog. A good blog with dedicated readers isn’t just about good content. You also need to network, talk to people, help people, do some marketing, build some links – participate, collaborate, and communicate!! I have tried to advertise twice with my friend Marco Richter, and he hasn’t approved or rejected my ads – I don’t think he’s participating much right now with Entrecard. But he doesn’t seem to have posted at all in the last month (I hope he’s ok), and he’s still #101 on that top 100 making money online list of blogs!
Pay attention to your stats! After you advertise with some sites, click on the “more stats” link in the bottom right of the quick stats in your dashboard. At the very bottom of the page, pay attention to the “Widgets Shown on” section, because these are stats where you have paid to advertise. You get top 10 stats for “clicks”, meaning the sites you advertised on that got the most clicks back to you. The #1 site I advertised on got 33 clicks – I should probably advertise on them again. If all your sites are <10 clicks or very low, maybe you should rethink the types of sites you are advertising on – are they even in your niche?
Oh, and one last thing. The reason I included my EC dashboard stats from today was to also show you, your ad price can go way up and down. I had an ad price of 80 credits a week ago because I messaged a hundred or so blogs about my new Content Exchange. I’ve been soooooo busy since then I haven’t dropped more than a handful of cards in a week, but people dropping on me kept the rate high for 6 days. Now that’s starting to drop of so my price is back to normal. I stay active in Entrecard, but not to the point where I don’t get anything else done on my blogs and web sites. You can see that I only drop about 1/2 the amount of cards that are dropped on me. And I haven’t bought a lot of ads (or had a lot purchased) from me recently either. And yet my ad price is pretty good because of my participation. Did I mention that most of the people I get cards from also seem to belong to blogCatalog and myBlogLog too? Building a little “community of bloggers” within your site can go a long way!
I’m going to message a few of the blogs I like best on Entrecard and ask them to comment on this post with their EC experiences as well!! I wonder if others feel the same way about Entrecard that I do? What do you think? Comment now!
**FINAL UPDATE**:
My goal with this post was show you the perceived value of Entrecard can be what you yourself make of it. Much like a blog itself, you get out of EC what you put into it. So now that you’ve read my post, going back to my title – I ask you, in your experience – has Entrecard been “worth it” or “worthless” to you, and why do you think that is? Have you participated enough? Do you think it’s worth it? Have you been getting traffic from it, new comments and rss subs? Have you networked with and met new bloggers?
Other posts around the web about Entrecard:
Entrecard Sucks: post outlining the reasons they think EC sucks, but in the end the post is summarized with reasons that EC networking is good and they’re going to keep it for now.
Entrecard Sucks?: a linkbait title, but post about how EC can bring bursts of traffic. I don’t think he realizes that if he participated more, he’d have new (and sustainable) traffic.
Sir Jorge says Entrecard Sucks because his blog about videos has nothing to do with “making money online”. I don’t think he gets the fact that you can use Entrecard in any niche.
Dot Sauce says ‘Entrecard blog network delivers traffic’ blogs about being happy with the networking and traffic EC has provided.
Raymond blogs about his ‘Month Long Orgy with Entrecard’, and says it took him over 6 hours to drop 300 cards. He says EC has been a tremendous benefit to him.
Reward Rebel writes ‘Entrecard Rides Again’ and wonders why the stats aren’t more detailed, or we at least can’t get access to the raw data that’s collected.
If you were looking to get more out of Entrecard – here’s a great post from Technet News Entrecard Tips for Success!
Sam Freedom’s Internet Marketing blog has all kinds of quality posts on Entrecard.
Let’s start with: 10 Simple ways to squeeze the most out of Entrecard, but it doesn’t stop there. Sam has a massive amount of quality Entrecard posts, help, tips, contests and more. He is prolific about blogging his Entrecard experiences, be sure to check him out.






Since I started with EntreCard, I have been enjoying reading and meeting new bloggers everyday. I have subscribed to many of them, that I liked the best ones in my niche and few others as well like parenting, photography, books. I wonder how few bloggers yell about only hopping traffic from Entrecard, that means visitors don’t want to stop in there so it’s time to review the content, isn’t it?
I have seen that many of the Entrecard visitors have started even advertising on my blog to get benefit of the traffic of my blog.
So it’s both ways actually, I tried to explain it in my 500 Entrecard credits give away contest as well. I want to give it away to new bloggers who would like to quickly get them to advertise on blogs where we see better traffic.
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I have subscribed to a few good blogs through Entrecard.
I have gained a couple of readers through Entrecard as well.
Entrecard is good way to get your brand out there in front of bloggers. Even if they are dropping their card and running. If your site is well branded that will make a difference in the long run.
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Hey John,
Great job on this massive post.
First of all, I am one of the “unknown” bloggers at the top of the lists, Internet Marketing is my Category, and yes I do drop 300 cards a day. But you may be surprised that it really isn’t hard to do this.
I started blogging daily little over a month ago, and now Entrecard dropping is just part of that routine. I have a series of bookmarks that I constantly maintain with blogs I like and people who drop back. It takes me less than an hour to drop 300 cards.
You just have to develop a system really. But of course, dropping cards isn’t what it’s ALL about.
To me, the networking that comes from Entrecard is the most important part. When I first started, I commented on other people’s blogs A LOT. Then slowly but surely, people started commenting on my blog. Entrecard is a fantastic way for smaller blogs to get on the radar.
I went from 0 to 150 visitors a day in about a month.
Of course, you have to give to receive. Don’t expect to become popular if you never update your blog, or don’t participate and interact with other Entrecarders.
A good tip for beginners in my opinion (what I did), is go through all of the blogs in your category to start, and drop cards frequently. Not only will you start developing ties with other bloggers in your niche, but you will learn a lot about blogging in your specific subject to boot.
Here are my stats, just to give you an idea of what consistently using this system has done for me:
10509 cards you dropped
3634 cards dropped on you
1450 clicks via ads you placed
1611 clicks from your blog to others
2641 clicks from entrecard.com to you
If you notice, I’ve not only dropped WAY more cards than I’ve received, but I’ve also received less advertising clicks than I’ve sent out. But does that bother me? Nope.
One last thing, the “Top 100 money making blogs” list you referred to, well you have to email the maintainer to be included, something I’m sure plenty of blogs don’t even know about 😛
In conclusion, this is the longest comment I’ve ever written lol, and Entrecard is fantastic for new bloggers that are serious about it, and want to get their name out there.
– Tim
Yimto Affiliate Marketing Blog
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Here is a quote from Graham Langdon the creator of Entrecard
“I’m not sure if you are aware, but the formula used to determine popularity has absolutely nothing to do with how many cards you drop. The exact formula is (the number of drops you receive on your widget per day) x 2.”
This was from a comment on a post on John Cow’s site. So blogs such as Colin King get a lot of entrecard traffic drops. It’s not how many they drop, it is how many are dropped on them. I had my ad on Problogger once, and yet it wasn’t my highest traffic generating ad.
Just thought you might find this information useful.
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If you are going to talk about other sites you should get your facts right first instead of doing a “quick lookup” on just one site and come to the conclusion that it is penalised. DnScoop shows when the domain was created not the age of the site that is there.
I had the domain created 9mths ago, yes, but if you had of read anything at my site you would know that the site was created on the 21st October (first post) so the site is only just over three months old. At the end of each month I have published the site stats to show it’s growth.
As far as backlinks are concerned where dnScoop gets that number from I don’t know. Google says I have 199, even Altavista and Alltheweb say I have only 2,790 (I guess they follow the nofollow links).
Quote: “What little traffic some of these sites are getting (like mine) is coming from Entrecard itself”
According to Google Analytics EntreCard traffic is only about 40% of the total and I am getting an average of 292 unique visitors per day. Again if you look at my site you will see no ads, because you have to have to market your site before the products. That means not depending on EntreCard for traffic, in fact I did a guest post about this at http://cyberstreetreport.com/2008/01/17/entrecard-forever/
Even according to dnscoop I have “fromm 100 to a few thousand daily visits”.
Text link & site value – Quote “A text link is valued at only $10 – but this does have a supposed value of $8,549” – sour grapes because your’s are worth only $7 and your site is valued at $640? Site value is what other’s are willing to pay for it. Depending on what site you go to my site is worth anything from around $5,000 to $25,000 – any such quote I take with a large pinch of salt.
The Top 100 sites – Quote:
“So it’s a combination of google trust, blogosphere reputation, and amount of traffic – a pretty good unbiased combination if you ask me”
The list takes a site’s PR, Technorati Rank and Alexa rank, does some form of calculation (undisclosed) on them and then lists them in some kind of order, and you have to display their widget as well (to give them a backlink?).
I haven’t added my blog to that list so why should I appear in it? It might be a nice ego stroker for some, I have other more pressing goals in mind.
Same goes for Toni, read her blog and you will see that she is a hard worker, the blog is the tip of the iceberg.
Marketing requires action – then you get results. So I’m working hard outside of EntreCard as much as within it. I’m not sitting on my rear for 3 months hoping something will happen.
EntreCard is what you make of it. While it’s nice to be at or near the top, that’s not the purpose (for me anyway). It is a nursery for the small blogs, like myself, to learn and grow and then go on to further education. Would I go back to the nursery? No, but I wouldn’t put it down because I couldn’t get my degree there.
Like you said “A good blog with dedicated readers isn’t just about good content. You also need to network, talk to people, help people, do some marketing, build some links – participate, collaborate, and communicate!!”
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= Same here, I’ve found new favorite blogs through Entrecard, and lots of people dropping cards have advertised and also made comments on my posts.
I agree, thanks for the comment! You can start to “brand” your site using any blogging network, Entrecard, or blogCatalog, myBloglog, etc – all great ways to get your site and message out there!
Hey Tim, thanks for your post! Also – thanks a lot for the stats! Wow – you’ve dropped a LOT of cards! And I’m glad it’s working for you. I guess I should have been more direct with that fact in my post – it’s all about what works for you! There are sooooo many ways to brand your site and network with other blogs.
You should google for all the posts about “entrecard sucks” and post a comment with how well it’s working for you!
Emma – I thank you for that information! Not only am I grateful that you posted it, I don’t believe it! No, I mean I believe you read it, I just don’t believe it’s true. I don’t know how it could be, because I know for a fact that every time I drop a card I get a credit. I once dropped 50 cards, an I got 50 credits. I did not have even close to 25 card drops from other people that day though. I think I might contact Entrecard support to see if they tell me! Anyone else that has information (documented) about EC credits – reply now! Thanks again Emma. =[]
Thanks for the insightful comments Colin! Sorry for any of my comments you felt were negative. I usually blog as if I were talking to someone, so sometimes things I say were just what I was thinking at the time. When I saw your PR0 and the date – yes I did mistakenly assume that your site was 9 months old, completely my mistake.
The only reason I included the dnscoop info was because I wanted to illustrate that 3 brand new bloggers are competing (in Entrecard) with 2 of the highest A-list bloggers in the world. The dnscoop numbers weren’t meant to insult you, or even mean I agree with them – only illustrate a point. I’ll have to update my post to reflect that. There are no sour grapes with the site worth of $8,549, I once had a site worth some $100,000 because it had 80,000 pages and 30,000 backlinks. It’s not like I could have actually gotten that amount of money. I also know my text link value is $7 and site value is $640 – like you said “take it with a pinch of salt”.
I had no idea you had to ask to be included in the top 100 making money blogs, I couldn’t find that statement on their page at all. It did say to email them if you wanted to be included, but I remember when that list first came out, and he found those blogs himself – it wasn’t blogs that requested to be on his list. Maybe that’s changed over time, especially because of the widget (like you said), there was no widget when the page first came out.
I do however, gratefully thank you for your comments, and I will revise my post because of them! I also hope you continue the meme in a post on your site!
Cheers!
– John
This is really a long post. Plus a lot of detail comment. Thanks for mentioning my blog. Cheers.
kumo’s last blog post..Effect of 300 Entrecard drops per day
Had it not been for Entrecard, would I ever have surfed into your blog? Who knows, but I did, and I’ve surfed into oh, so many other blogs as well. Along the way I’ve discovered some wonderful new sites, and made many new friends, so I’m definitely a fan of the network.
However, I agree with your point about the potential for artificially inflating the advertising cost of a site. I recently posted about this, too, A Victim of My Own Success because I was concerned at the high cost to advertise on my own site, and the click thru rate expectations of my advertisers. Perhaps Entrecard could set the highest rate to be charged, which can then be adjusted if so desired.
I’ve just posted about my own experiences networking with the Entrecard community Entrecard Rides Again I hope you manage to read it;-D
Layne (aka Reward Rebel)’s last blog post..Entrecard Rides Again
EntreCard help small-time bloggers by bringing traffic and the visitor exchange can be more than 1:1 ratio.
Take standard traffic exchange program for example, you have to surf 3 sites before you get one visit. With EntreCard, on certain days I don’t even drop a card yet I still receive visit and card from EntreCard members.
One things for sure, all my sites listed in EntreCard have it’s Alexa ranking improving by the day.
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What amazes me is the ridiculously high ranking of A-List bloggers who do nothing but display the entrecard on their site. I certainly don’t drop my card on their site unless I ran an ad there and needed a screenshot. Are you sure you are a niche blogger? Because I may only have 300 readers a day, but you can be pretty sure every one of them is enthusiastic about my “niche”, which happens to be Entrecard. Smart advertisers who want to target that Entrecard niche have already picked up on it. Is it too small for the “make money online” crowd to tackle, or they just don’t see it until they read about it elsewhere? No, you can’t run 300 niche sites yourself on entrecard, but you can easily run 1 or 2. I think that is the real issue, it requires community effort to get even one blog off the ground in entrecard. But as entrecard grows, so does my niche. Doubling every 2 months, I don’t think joining Entrecard is a mistake.
I found your review of EntreCard to be negative overall starting with the intro questions all negatively aimed such as “Is Entrecard a black hole time sucker with a fake economy?” and never really answering it.
You still have:
“Your “level of activity†in the Entrecard community determines the current “ad rateâ€.” in the review. It is the average number of cards dropped on you in the last five days and multiplied by two. So if a 100 people drop a card on you every day then your ad price will be 200ec.
And then you repeat the same thing lower down:
“A virtually unknown blogger can “click his way to the top“, and that part of the algorithm should probably be changed”
This time it’s in bold to make a point.
Popularity: How do you become popular – you communicate and help others. Within EntreCard what has John or Darren done? Do they talk in the forums? Instead they got to the top in the first place because they are well known and people think that by dropping a card they can get their attention. People are finding that is not happening and are now drifting away from the “bigwigs” to those that really help.
You still have the 10,789 links there when I have shown you Google shows only 199.
Quote:
“I say that if you’re going to bother to sign up with Entrecard” why would anyone sign up if asked that way? Why should I “bother”?
In your reply to my comment above, quote:
“The dnscoop numbers weren’t meant to insult you, or even mean I agree with them – only illustrate a point.”
That is really the point of your post isn’t it? Because 3 unknowns are, in your eyes, competing with your heroes, you don’t like it. So you get info that you don’t verify or even agree with just to knock and belittle in your tone of writing. If that was not your point, just what was?
Fact is I’m not competing with anyone, Darren or John . I know they are famous, have lots of traffic & subscribers, I’m even subscribed to Darren’s blog. But that’s all I know about them. I’m in EntreCard to get traffic, learn and grow – not to beat someone else. In fact by helping someone else we will all probably get further ahead.
You didn’t check the FAQ at EntreCard.
You assumed what you wanted.
You didn’t verify easily verifiable facts.
You “had no idea” about membership in the Top 100.
By putting down the more successful in EntreCard as being worthless in your eyes, then what is the worth of anyone else? So as you said “Why bother” joining?
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Interesting view. I guess I look at it as you get out of it what you put in.
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thanks for your comments Colin! I’ve updated my post again, and given you well deserved props for the items I’ve overlooked. Hopefully with my revised version, you (and others) will see that I didn’t perceive my post as negative at all, and I wasn’t putting down any blogs (believe me Problogger and John Chow are not my heroes, I prefer Shoemoney myself).
I hope the new version gets the point across better, and I did (I believe) address every single item in your comment(s).
Once again – thank you for your participation!
Cheers,
– John
Hey John, Thanks for the link love in your post. I especially appreciate the revisions you have made in your post, I wish more people would correct themselves when they realize they were mis-informed or incorrect. This was a great detailed post, and I am looking forward to reading more of your insights on this blog. As for the people who are tops in their designated lists, Simply put “you work the plan not just plan to work”. I will say that I have been waiting to advertise on John Chows blog and his ad slots are always full.
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Thanks for a very informative write-up. I am right at the point of dropping Entecard mainly because of the time factor … but your examples and ‘term paper proofs’ have certainly made me re-think the idea that investing an hour or so per blogging day might well be worth it.
Two things I have found that hurt chnaces for online moneymeking the most are:
Sitting and doing nothing instead of trying something
Dropping out of growth opportunities too quickly.
I haven’t really given Entrecard a fair chance, methinks, so back to the drawing board here.
BTW, love you blog _hate_ the double word captcha … my first comment was lost because the captcha was hidden below the comment box … please consider adifferent approach to anti-spam, this one is intrusive and hard to use … I type poorly enough as it is.
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A little self-plug.
Great post by the way.
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Buying and selling of entrecard credits.
Thanks
Quite a long post here. I think Entrecard is a great system. Yes, there will be people who abuse it somewhat and some of your traffic won’t do much but drop their card. However, you are still branding yourself to those that do nothing but drop a card and that is always a good thing.
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I’ve found Entrecard to be a great tool, as I have become part of a wider (and growing) community.
I just view it as a link exchange, which has increased my hit amount, and has given me a few regular readers.
As someone who’ll never look at making money from a blog, it’s the closest thing by using my credits. It’s also given me the chance to read, and comment on, blogs I’d not have found before.
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I just joined today. So far, so good. It really is addictive though!! =0
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Entrecard = worthless. Complete junk traffic. Thought you might enjoy what I did this morning – http://natespost.com/index.php/entrecard-scam-mongo-credits/
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Everyone’s entitled to their opinion Nate. According to your post all your worried about is whether or not your going to get “quality traffic” to your blog, when that’s not the point of entrecard in the first place.
I mean honestly – I wouldn’t have found your blog and left a comment earlier today if I hadn’t found you (and BlogX) through entrecard.
If as you said in your post, you use the service for less than one day and try to figure out a methods to “scam credits” – you’ll get out of (entrecard) what you put into it, nothing.
Nice article – thank you. I’m on the fence about Entrecard (I’ll try anything for more traffic…who isn’t?) and this has been very informative. Found you via Problogger.
Writing a blog about being a better father and husband doesn’t get a ton of traffic, but from what i can tell, Entrecard might allow you to network with other small bloggers.
–TW
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Howdy! Good topic for someone new to the Blogging scene – I found this after considering using Entrecard and googling for reactions.
Since I’m not out to make huge money, and just get a little more traffic from other small bloggers, I’m going to use it! 🙂
Thanks for your input, time, and research!
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