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	<title>Comments on: EPIC FAIL:  Build a Niche Store Kelvin and Adam are Morons</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Reese</title>
		<link>http://www.jtpratt.com/epic-fail-build-a-niche-store/#comment-9385</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Reese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought I was the only one who was honest enough to post the truth about BANS, 
(as found on http://shortbuswebmasters.com/bans-is-dead-buildanichestore-members-now-post-truth )
but I must say you took a different tack about the situation and nailed it squarely, regarding the failure to take BANS to the next level. What a missed opportunity! 

I purchased BANS fairly early and survived every landmine Google and eBay threw at me and others. I saw the mass executions of thin sites (most well deserved of being eliminated) and affiliates who didn&#039;t put any effort into building a quality site.

I no longer post on the BANS forum. Most of it is useless drivel now and few people with any real programming knowledge remain. Adam and Kelvin killed BANS themselves. They got rich in an almost overnight situation that I think took them by surprise. They obviously had no game plan on how to expand on the unforeseen success, tried to milk out a little more money with a BS &quot;Guide&quot;, and then disappeared again when they realized anyone smart enough to do a little research wasn&#039;t going to buy them out for even $100K when they listed everything they had on Flippa. 

Hard to believe that it once averaged over $250K/yr in sales. It has gotten such a bad reputation nobody will touch it. It is dead from the outside and now the inside.

I no longer build BANS sites and have converted all to Wordpress based sites, or gone to other scripts that still offer support and have grown. While BANS was once a simple way to make some easy money and had the needed support that it required, it now nothing more than a money sucking frog that some, who based their entire website empire around it, still try to convince newbs to kiss it. 

It isn&#039;t going to turn into a prince. It will remain a worthless frog for anyone new to the affiliate and website game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I was the only one who was honest enough to post the truth about BANS,<br />
(as found on <a href="http://shortbuswebmasters.com/bans-is-dead-buildanichestore-members-now-post-truth" rel="nofollow">http://shortbuswebmasters.com/bans-is-dead-buildanichestore-members-now-post-truth</a> )<br />
but I must say you took a different tack about the situation and nailed it squarely, regarding the failure to take BANS to the next level. What a missed opportunity! </p>
<p>I purchased BANS fairly early and survived every landmine Google and eBay threw at me and others. I saw the mass executions of thin sites (most well deserved of being eliminated) and affiliates who didn&#8217;t put any effort into building a quality site.</p>
<p>I no longer post on the BANS forum. Most of it is useless drivel now and few people with any real programming knowledge remain. Adam and Kelvin killed BANS themselves. They got rich in an almost overnight situation that I think took them by surprise. They obviously had no game plan on how to expand on the unforeseen success, tried to milk out a little more money with a BS &#8220;Guide&#8221;, and then disappeared again when they realized anyone smart enough to do a little research wasn&#8217;t going to buy them out for even $100K when they listed everything they had on Flippa. </p>
<p>Hard to believe that it once averaged over $250K/yr in sales. It has gotten such a bad reputation nobody will touch it. It is dead from the outside and now the inside.</p>
<p>I no longer build BANS sites and have converted all to WordPress based sites, or gone to other scripts that still offer support and have grown. While BANS was once a simple way to make some easy money and had the needed support that it required, it now nothing more than a money sucking frog that some, who based their entire website empire around it, still try to convince newbs to kiss it. </p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t going to turn into a prince. It will remain a worthless frog for anyone new to the affiliate and website game.</p>
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		<title>By: single serving coffee maker</title>
		<link>http://www.jtpratt.com/epic-fail-build-a-niche-store/#comment-8992</link>
		<dc:creator>single serving coffee maker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BANS is how I made my first consistent money online. I was also guilty of building &quot; thin affiliate sites &quot; but luckily Yahoo took a liking to my first one and it&#039;s still on the first page of Yahoo.
.-= single serving coffee maker&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://singleservingcoffeemakershop.com/new-coffee-strain-to-be-developed-in-uganda/&quot;&gt;New Coffee Strain To Be Developed In Uganda&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BANS is how I made my first consistent money online. I was also guilty of building &#8221; thin affiliate sites &#8221; but luckily Yahoo took a liking to my first one and it&#8217;s still on the first page of Yahoo.<br />
.-= single serving coffee maker&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://singleservingcoffeemakershop.com/new-coffee-strain-to-be-developed-in-uganda/">New Coffee Strain To Be Developed In Uganda</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
		<link>http://www.jtpratt.com/epic-fail-build-a-niche-store/#comment-8633</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 22:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelvin and Adam are a joke. Getting an answer from them on the old forum was like pulling teeth. They were happy to accept $97 for &quot;guaranteed lifetime updates&quot; but not so happy to respond to serious questions or serious feature requests.

Then they come up with some new snazzy ebook that is basically a collection of blog posts from affiliate forums and try to market it to their list as some sort of new fangled affiliate revelation. PLEASE!

They dropped the BANS ball big time. Makes me wonder if those two have a personal relationship with a crackpipe. :)
.-= Laurie&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://laurie-the-traveler.com/?p=284&quot;&gt;The Selling Queen Review - Is The Selling Queen Ebay Report A Bunch Of Hot Air Or Is It Really True?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelvin and Adam are a joke. Getting an answer from them on the old forum was like pulling teeth. They were happy to accept $97 for &#8220;guaranteed lifetime updates&#8221; but not so happy to respond to serious questions or serious feature requests.</p>
<p>Then they come up with some new snazzy ebook that is basically a collection of blog posts from affiliate forums and try to market it to their list as some sort of new fangled affiliate revelation. PLEASE!</p>
<p>They dropped the BANS ball big time. Makes me wonder if those two have a personal relationship with a crackpipe. <img src='http://www.jtpratt.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
.-= Laurie&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://laurie-the-traveler.com/?p=284">The Selling Queen Review &#8211; Is The Selling Queen Ebay Report A Bunch Of Hot Air Or Is It Really True?</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Unlock Mobile Phone</title>
		<link>http://www.jtpratt.com/epic-fail-build-a-niche-store/#comment-8575</link>
		<dc:creator>Unlock Mobile Phone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 18:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny enough I just came accross this post when searching for BANS stuff. It is a shame the development has stopped as the concept was great. The was a great number of followers and there was alot of potential to expand on the idea and add more advertising than just epn. Such a shame :(
.-= Unlock Mobile Phone&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.unlockmobile.org/&quot;&gt;ROR Sitemap for http://www.unlockmobile.org/&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny enough I just came accross this post when searching for BANS stuff. It is a shame the development has stopped as the concept was great. The was a great number of followers and there was alot of potential to expand on the idea and add more advertising than just epn. Such a shame <img src='http://www.jtpratt.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
.-= Unlock Mobile Phone&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.unlockmobile.org/">ROR Sitemap for </a><a href="http://www.unlockmobile.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.unlockmobile.org/</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: conveyancing</title>
		<link>http://www.jtpratt.com/epic-fail-build-a-niche-store/#comment-8035</link>
		<dc:creator>conveyancing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the warning. It&#039;s refreshing to see this kind of honesty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the warning. It&#8217;s refreshing to see this kind of honesty.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
		<link>http://www.jtpratt.com/epic-fail-build-a-niche-store/#comment-7925</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not uncommon. People create something fantastic and some followers but then the spirit kind of fades away. When there&#039;s no spirit there&#039;s no urge to continue developing it.

If I were in their shoes I would probably hire someone to continue the the process.
.-= Stefan&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://ducedo.com/automatically-backup-harddrive/&quot;&gt;How to Automatically Back Up Your Computer&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not uncommon. People create something fantastic and some followers but then the spirit kind of fades away. When there&#8217;s no spirit there&#8217;s no urge to continue developing it.</p>
<p>If I were in their shoes I would probably hire someone to continue the the process.<br />
.-= Stefan&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://ducedo.com/automatically-backup-harddrive/">How to Automatically Back Up Your Computer</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.jtpratt.com/epic-fail-build-a-niche-store/#comment-7862</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it is a shame about the BANS creators sitting back for years.

I think they just never really wanted to be product developers per se.  I think they simply prefer to build sites and sit back and not deal with the hassles.

But what a lost opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it is a shame about the BANS creators sitting back for years.</p>
<p>I think they just never really wanted to be product developers per se.  I think they simply prefer to build sites and sit back and not deal with the hassles.</p>
<p>But what a lost opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: Making Money Online</title>
		<link>http://www.jtpratt.com/epic-fail-build-a-niche-store/#comment-7854</link>
		<dc:creator>Making Money Online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of purchasing BANS, I decided to go with Storestacker. I am about as thrilled with SS as you are with BANS. The script takes up too many resources on my server which got my account shut down once and they haven&#039;t added any new features since they came out with the CJ module earlier this year. 

Then when Amazon came out with their notice that they are changing their API, it took forever to get an update out. The notice came out mid May, and the update was finally done in August. When I asked about it on their forum, I received a smarta**ed answer.

I will never buy another store builder script again, but I am considering DatafeedR based upon your recommendations.

Thank you for the update about BANS and for having such a great blog.

Brenda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of purchasing BANS, I decided to go with Storestacker. I am about as thrilled with SS as you are with BANS. The script takes up too many resources on my server which got my account shut down once and they haven&#8217;t added any new features since they came out with the CJ module earlier this year. </p>
<p>Then when Amazon came out with their notice that they are changing their API, it took forever to get an update out. The notice came out mid May, and the update was finally done in August. When I asked about it on their forum, I received a smarta**ed answer.</p>
<p>I will never buy another store builder script again, but I am considering DatafeedR based upon your recommendations.</p>
<p>Thank you for the update about BANS and for having such a great blog.</p>
<p>Brenda</p>
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