Comments on: BANS: Google Sandbox and Google Penalties http://www.jtpratt.com/bans-google-sandbox-and-google-penalties/ Wordpress Consulting, Wordpress Help, Custom Themes and Plugins Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:54:26 +0000 hourly 1 By: estetik http://www.jtpratt.com/bans-google-sandbox-and-google-penalties/#comment-8278 estetik Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:03:47 +0000 http://www.jtpratt.com/?p=176#comment-8278 I have 15 websites. 6 of them have been filtered. Websites are listed in the 5.-7. pages, even if searched with their own domain. Sites are 24-26 months old. I got 30-40 domestic backlinks in the first 11 months. I also built cross links with my other sites which are hosted at the same server. In the 12. month I got 30-40 foreign backlinks more and at the end of the 12. month filter has captured. After site filtered, I stopped to get backlink, I reviewed meta tags and broke all cross links. Then I requested reconsideration. I got no result after reconsideration request. Thereafter in the second month of the filter, I deleted all ftp files for 10-15 days, reloaded again and observed the consequence. Nothing changed... By the way I was also searching the solution. I thought changing the design might be benefical, then I changed the design, reviewed all the texts, rebuilt cross links and requested reconsideration in the sixth month of the filter. Nothing changed again. Stopping to get backlink was not benefical. So, I thought if I get backlinks with high pageranked, these backlinks might force to be released. I have been getting backlinks for 5-6 months. In the 10. month of the filter I checked and reviewed the metatags again and re-edited as much as simple. I was expecting that the site would be released after 12 month. After 12. month of the filter, I requested reconsideration, but I disappointed once more. Somebody advised me to build WP and to get feeds. But the site is hosted in windows server. Now I am still searching a solution. I have 15 websites. 6 of them have been filtered. Websites are listed in the 5.-7. pages, even if searched with their own domain. Sites are 24-26 months old. I got 30-40 domestic backlinks in the first 11 months. I also built cross links with my other sites which are hosted at the same server. In the 12. month I got 30-40 foreign backlinks more and at the end of the 12. month filter has captured. After site filtered, I stopped to get backlink, I reviewed meta tags and broke all cross links. Then I requested reconsideration. I got no result after reconsideration request. Thereafter in the second month of the filter, I deleted all ftp files for 10-15 days, reloaded again and observed the consequence. Nothing changed… By the way I was also searching the solution. I thought changing the design might be benefical, then I changed the design, reviewed all the texts, rebuilt cross links and requested reconsideration in the sixth month of the filter. Nothing changed again. Stopping to get backlink was not benefical. So, I thought if I get backlinks with high pageranked, these backlinks might force to be released. I have been getting backlinks for 5-6 months. In the 10. month of the filter I checked and reviewed the metatags again and re-edited as much as simple. I was expecting that the site would be released after 12 month. After 12. month of the filter, I requested reconsideration, but I disappointed once more. Somebody advised me to build WP and to get feeds. But the site is hosted in windows server. Now I am still searching a solution.

]]> By: estetik http://www.jtpratt.com/bans-google-sandbox-and-google-penalties/#comment-8264 estetik Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:31:43 +0000 http://www.jtpratt.com/?p=176#comment-8264 Thank you for the artickle. I have been penaltied by Google for a year and I am searching the solution. I am not banned, I guess I am not in sandbox, but filtered. If I explain my problem, would you help me? Thank you again... Thank you for the artickle. I have been penaltied by Google for a year and I am searching the solution. I am not banned, I guess I am not in sandbox, but filtered. If I explain my problem, would you help me? Thank you again…

]]> By: Debra Moldovan http://www.jtpratt.com/bans-google-sandbox-and-google-penalties/#comment-4411 Debra Moldovan Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:41:17 +0000 http://www.jtpratt.com/?p=176#comment-4411 I am so glad you posted this article. When I first set up my BANS site, I was cruising along (sort of) getting my BANS site indexed by Google and adding new content every day. All of a sudden, my site dropped from the face of the earth (Google). I didn't know what happened. I'd added a sitemap and robots.txt file. What could be wrong? I was becoming down right depressed, but I used Google and found your article. It makes me feel better to know I'm not the only one and I have more options to get my site indexed again. I've found out there's quite a learning curve to having a BANS website up, running and indexed. But you know what, it's fun, challenging and I'm ready to start another one. Thanks for your articles. I am so glad you posted this article. When I first set up my BANS site, I was cruising along (sort of) getting my BANS site indexed by Google and adding new content every day. All of a sudden, my site dropped from the face of the earth (Google). I didn’t know what happened. I’d added a sitemap and robots.txt file. What could be wrong? I was becoming down right depressed, but I used Google and found your article. It makes me feel better to know I’m not the only one and I have more options to get my site indexed again. I’ve found out there’s quite a learning curve to having a BANS website up, running and indexed. But you know what, it’s fun, challenging and I’m ready to start another one. Thanks for your articles.

]]> By: C http://www.jtpratt.com/bans-google-sandbox-and-google-penalties/#comment-3648 C Fri, 30 May 2008 14:35:36 +0000 http://www.jtpratt.com/?p=176#comment-3648 I've been away for a while. . . just a little busy; however, during that time I've been able to do a couple experiments with the “google sandbox”. Here's the skinny. . . When I posted on here in the past I used my acupuncture site to link to. Well, that was a new site when I started posting here and, obviously, it's not topic relevant to JT's site. What happened with this site is what everyone terms the “google sandbox.” I knew there were phrases I should be ranking for but I was no where near where I should be and the more “links” I was getting from “non relevant sites” the worse it got; however, Yahoo! Seemed to like me a lot. Simply put, Google seen the number of links as too many too quick and not relevant to my topic but yahoo just likes links, thus I climbed in yahoo and plummeted in google. Now the questions arises, is the sandbox applied to all new sites? Well, I had started a wordpress blog before this site I mention and google couldn't index it fast enough. I moved that to wordpress.com due to time restraints but recently started a site for a friend. I used wordpress and made a static/blog site. It has climbed in google very very quickly. The key was NOT getting too many links to quickly and keeping those links very very relevant. There has been absolutely no sandbox effect whatsoever with this new site. While the site I used when I posted here never got out of the sandbox! The only thing close to a “sandbox” effect was the normal “sniffing” around of the search engines with the site till enough pages and posts were up that it was taken as a legitimate site. About two weeks top, and I think that only happened because I started the site with a few pages and then let it sit for a couple weeks. My previous blog I started post by post and google indexed it from the word go and never stopped. It seems to avoid the sandbox you only need to make your site grow very organically in google's eyes, especially in the beginning. Don't get too many links to fast and keep them relevant. Yahoo! On the other hand doesn't seem to care one way or the other. This all seems “normal” when you think about it. It's google's filter for spamming. So now I need to use a relevant site to post here :D hope this helps some noobs. . . it can save months on getting SERPs Cs last blog post..<a href="http://whateveryoneneedstoknow.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/spring-is-here-finally/" rel="nofollow">Spring is here. . . finally!</a> I’ve been away for a while. . . just a little busy; however, during that time I’ve been able to do a couple experiments with the “google sandbox”.

Here’s the skinny. . .

When I posted on here in the past I used my acupuncture site to link to. Well, that was a new site when I started posting here and, obviously, it’s not topic relevant to JT’s site.

What happened with this site is what everyone terms the “google sandbox.” I knew there were phrases I should be ranking for but I was no where near where I should be and the more “links” I was getting from “non relevant sites” the worse it got; however, Yahoo! Seemed to like me a lot. Simply put, Google seen the number of links as too many too quick and not relevant to my topic but yahoo just likes links, thus I climbed in yahoo and plummeted in google.

Now the questions arises, is the sandbox applied to all new sites? Well, I had started a wordpress blog before this site I mention and google couldn’t index it fast enough. I moved that to wordpress.com due to time restraints but recently started a site for a friend. I used wordpress and made a static/blog site. It has climbed in google very very quickly. The key was NOT getting too many links to quickly and keeping those links very very relevant. There has been absolutely no sandbox effect whatsoever with this new site. While the site I used when I posted here never got out of the sandbox! The only thing close to a “sandbox” effect was the normal “sniffing” around of the search engines with the site till enough pages and posts were up that it was taken as a legitimate site. About two weeks top, and I think that only happened because I started the site with a few pages and then let it sit for a couple weeks. My previous blog I started post by post and google indexed it from the word go and never stopped.

It seems to avoid the sandbox you only need to make your site grow very organically in google’s eyes, especially in the beginning. Don’t get too many links to fast and keep them relevant. Yahoo! On the other hand doesn’t seem to care one way or the other.

This all seems “normal” when you think about it. It’s google’s filter for spamming.

So now I need to use a relevant site to post here :D

hope this helps some noobs. . . it can save months on getting SERPs

Cs last blog post..Spring is here. . . finally!

]]> By: Paul http://www.jtpratt.com/bans-google-sandbox-and-google-penalties/#comment-3510 Paul Mon, 05 May 2008 13:37:10 +0000 http://www.jtpratt.com/?p=176#comment-3510 I run only 10 or so long tail phrases on the Adwords campaign and set the cost to minimum and daily cost to $5. Pauls last blog post..<a href="http://toolboxhero.com/blog/sears-purchaseprotect-a-new-way-for-sears-to-get-your-money/" rel="nofollow">Sears PurchaseProtect! A New Way For Sears To Get Your Money</a> I run only 10 or so long tail phrases on the Adwords campaign and set the cost to minimum and daily cost to $5.

Pauls last blog post..Sears PurchaseProtect! A New Way For Sears To Get Your Money

]]> By: Paul http://www.jtpratt.com/bans-google-sandbox-and-google-penalties/#comment-3509 Paul Mon, 05 May 2008 13:33:41 +0000 http://www.jtpratt.com/?p=176#comment-3509 It seems to help if you buy your domain name and leave it set for 6 months or so before you put BANS on it. I have 3 mature domains (over 1 year) with new BANS installs (less than one month) and google lists and crawls them regularly. I have 3 new domains with BANS installs and they are nowhere to be found. Google crawls them, but they won't show up for keywords or site search. I have one site that is sandboxed but crawl sites like zibb.com have found it and it is getting traffic from those sites. It "seems" to help with sandboxed sites if you run a narrowly focused Adwords campaign for a few weeks. Even if it really doesn't help, at least you are getting some traffic and a few people to bookmark the site. Pauls last blog post..1 It seems to help if you buy your domain name and leave it set for 6 months or so before you put BANS on it.

I have 3 mature domains (over 1 year) with new BANS installs (less than one month) and google lists and crawls them regularly.

I have 3 new domains with BANS installs and they are nowhere to be found. Google crawls them, but they won’t show up for keywords or site search.

I have one site that is sandboxed but crawl sites like zibb.com have found it and it is getting traffic from those sites.

It “seems” to help with sandboxed sites if you run a narrowly focused Adwords campaign for a few weeks. Even if it really doesn’t help, at least you are getting some traffic and a few people to bookmark the site.

Pauls last blog post..1

]]> By: Acupuncture http://www.jtpratt.com/bans-google-sandbox-and-google-penalties/#comment-3494 Acupuncture Fri, 02 May 2008 22:47:51 +0000 http://www.jtpratt.com/?p=176#comment-3494 Man. . . you and google seem to have relationship issues! Maybe marriage counseling? =)] I noticed that google crawls my static html site rarely. It seemed to be in a “sandbox” but that's only because google gave it no attention till I submitted a sitemap with 500 pages. Then they started indexing it. I guess the first 80 pages wasn't enough for them to worry about and yes, this site had ALL original content. Well, did my first wordpress site and google couldn't crawl it fast enough. Hell, I couldn't even throw up a test page without it being indexed?!?!?!? Now fast forward. . . I put that site onto wordpress dot com and after a couple weeks google is crawling it every second I post something. Great. . . well, I put another site up on the same server I have my static site on. The two sites have a similar theme because the static will be taken down in time but the content is original on both. Well, I moved another site onto this new wordpress site (two sites in one) and google didn't like that. They seem to see the combination of material as duplicate or something. I even removed the one from google in the webmaster tools. They crawled it right away. . . showed all the pages then two days later dumped all of it!!! Now they've added a few pages but they're chewing it slowly. Like you said, you just got to keep on doing what you need to do. C Acupunctures last blog post..<a href="http://classical-true-acupuncture.com/phineas-parkhurst-quimby/" rel="nofollow">Phineas Parkhurst Quimby</a> Man. . . you and google seem to have relationship issues! Maybe marriage counseling? =)]

I noticed that google crawls my static html site rarely. It seemed to be in a “sandbox” but that’s only because google gave it no attention till I submitted a sitemap with 500 pages. Then they started indexing it. I guess the first 80 pages wasn’t enough for them to worry about and yes, this site had ALL original content.

Well, did my first wordpress site and google couldn’t crawl it fast enough. Hell, I couldn’t even throw up a test page without it being indexed?!?!?!?

Now fast forward. . .
I put that site onto wordpress dot com and after a couple weeks google is crawling it every second I post something.
Great. . . well, I put another site up on the same server I have my static site on. The two sites have a similar theme because the static will be taken down in time but the content is original on both.

Well, I moved another site onto this new wordpress site (two sites in one) and google didn’t like that. They seem to see the combination of material as duplicate or something. I even removed the one from google in the webmaster tools. They crawled it right away. . . showed all the pages then two days later dumped all of it!!! Now they’ve added a few pages but they’re chewing it slowly.

Like you said, you just got to keep on doing what you need to do.

C

Acupunctures last blog post..Phineas Parkhurst Quimby

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